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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby clif » Sat May 09, 2015 3:02 am

Weltall84 wrote:I'll put this in Dalek-speak for your Alex:

*turns on voice modulator* EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN!!!!!
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Nope. Explanations are a trap that takes her further down the rabbit hole. She's done what she promissed to do. It's time to walk away.

It won't happen of course.

PaulJones202718 wrote:It could be anything. He could not want to admit that she was right about Linda, he could not want to admit that his living arrangements have changed, he could not want to admit that his grades are in the shitter or he could not want to admit that he realized what a creep he's been to pretty much everyone in the Foundation House for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who thinks he farts rainbows.


Yep, as Paul always says, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby PaulJones202718 » Sat May 09, 2015 5:11 am

clif wrote:
Weltall84 wrote:I'll put this in Dalek-speak for your Alex:

*turns on voice modulator* EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN!!!!!
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Nope. Explanations are a trap that takes her further down the rabbit hole. She's done what she promissed to do. It's time to walk away.

It won't happen of course.

PaulJones202718 wrote:It could be anything. He could not want to admit that she was right about Linda, he could not want to admit that his living arrangements have changed, he could not want to admit that his grades are in the shitter or he could not want to admit that he realized what a creep he's been to pretty much everyone in the Foundation House for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who thinks he farts rainbows.


Yep, as Paul always says, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.


But in his case, that makes the most sense. Boyo is playing the sympathy card to get her to screw herself up by taking him back.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby clif » Sat May 09, 2015 10:05 pm

PaulJones202718 wrote:But in his case, that makes the most sense. Boyo is playing the sympathy card to get her to screw herself up by taking him back.


Let's see. Say, I'm Alex. I decide I want Candi back. So instead of immediately telling her the good news,I stop shaving, stop calling the people I feel closest to, and don't even answer the phone for Candi's mother as part of my masterplan to get her back.

This is Alex?

Um, no. You have to understand points of veiw beyond your own before you can successfully manipulate people that way.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby Rosebud » Mon May 11, 2015 7:14 am

None of the explanations make sense so far.

His grandmother hated Linda. So if he says that he dumped Linda, his abuela would be ecstatic.

Candi isn't going back to him, so don't even pretend to float that ship. Nor is Alex competent enough to come up with some ridiculous ruse.

I'm still holding out for either the Squirrel Mafia or Jessica's brother.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby BenjaminT » Mon May 11, 2015 9:31 am

My guess is that he's depressed due to some problem. He doesn't want to call his grandma until the problem is resolved (perhaps because she'll try to fix it in a way that Alex wouldn't like?). It could be slipping in grades, it could housing problems, money problems, etc. Maybe he knows that if he talks to her, she'll dig it out of him and he won't be able to lie to her. He wants to be able to say the truth but also include that it's been taken care of. That's my guess. I don't think the problem is that Linda is not with him anymore...but it could have started with that. For instance, his grades may have slipped after Linda dumped him because he got depressed and stopped going to his classes. I'm not convinced that Linda affected him that deeply but it's possible. Or he could have found out that she cheated on him with Nate and his pride was really hurt, causing a fight that got him kicked out or got him depressed that affected him in other ways. Who knows? I don't think this is some master plan on Alex's part to get back with Candi. I do think Candi may have some sympathy for his plight, though, and she may get sucked into his drama for a bit.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby LadyLuck777 » Mon May 11, 2015 11:35 am

I'm hoping that most women around campus know his history and are avoiding him like the plague. Can you think of a better blow to the ego than Alex not being able to get a date? :lol:
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby carbuncle1992 » Mon May 11, 2015 3:43 pm

LadyObvious23 wrote:-___- He's scared of his Grandmother isn't he? Totally understandable but he can try to pretend that he isn't.

Okay, but, can we fault him?

I'd be scared if that was my grandma, too.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby The Vicar » Mon May 11, 2015 6:14 pm

I don't buy that he has had some kind of epiphany. People who are oblivious to other people's sufferings tend not to "get better". (It's also the case that most sociopaths and people with Narcissist Personality Disorder tend not to "get better" — usually therapy just helps them become more adept at manipulating people. There are exceptions, but they are just that: exceptions.)

I bet Alex has just discovered that he can go and get drunk any time he wants, possibly with his jock buddies (he's an athlete, remember?), and keeping up with his studies and things are all the "drudgery" he can handle. He hates talking to his grandmother, and he knows Candi's mom will make him feel bad about his bad habits, so he has just convinced himself that it's okay not to talk to them "for a while".

(Or maybe he has joined a frat. I can totally see a jackass like him in a frat.)
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby ShadeTail » Mon May 11, 2015 7:43 pm

Rosebud wrote:His grandmother hated Linda. So if he says that he dumped Linda, his abuela would be ecstatic.

That's true as far as it goes. But Alex's grandma would definitely take the opportunity to take the mickey out of him over hooking up with Linda in the first place. And Alex, of course, just hates it when he isn't given the respect he thinks he deserves. He also made some pretty strong objections the last time she tried to meddle in his love life, but she's clearly still set on him getting back with Candi regardless of how he feels about it. All of those are pretty solid reasons why he might be avoiding her.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby clif » Mon May 11, 2015 8:05 pm

Rosebud wrote:None of the explanations make sense so far. ... His grandmother hated Linda. So if he says that he dumped Linda, his abuela would be ecstatic.


ShadeTail wrote:That's true as far as it goes. But Alex's grandma would definitely take the opportunity to take the mickey out of him over hooking up with Linda in the first place. And Alex, of course, just hates it when he isn't given the respect he thinks he deserves. He also made some pretty strong objections the last time she tried to meddle in his love life, but she's clearly still set on him getting back with Candi regardless of how he feels about it. All of those are pretty solid reasons why he might be avoiding her.


They are. But I think that it's been quite awhile now since Linda has broke up with him. All the time that Linda stayed in the house and then out on her new job and into a new semester. If Alex hadn't been talking to his abuela all that time, she would have hit maximum panic mode long before now. On the whole, I think I have to agree with Rosebud on this one. None of the explanations so far make complete sense.


((Rosebud, unfortunately that includes the Squirrel Mafia who have no reason to target Alex.))
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby clif » Mon May 11, 2015 8:09 pm

carbuncle1992 wrote:I'd be scared if that was my grandma, too.


Point.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby Rosebud » Wed May 13, 2015 9:43 pm

While the Squirrel Mafia have no reason to target Alex, they're cool enough that one doesn't care. :D And, really, he deserves it.

As to his grandmother wanting him back with Candi, I just get the sense that she feels that nobody is good enough for her grandson, which is why she was not thrilled with Candi when they were together. It's just that she is less awful than Linda and she is taken care of by Candi's mother, so, presumably, Candi will take care of him.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby LadyObvious23 » Fri May 15, 2015 8:09 pm

carbuncle1992 wrote:
LadyObvious23 wrote:-___- He's scared of his Grandmother isn't he? Totally understandable but he can try to pretend that he isn't.

Okay, but, can we fault him?

I'd be scared if that was my grandma, too.

Did say it was understandable. But that he should pretend.
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Re: I will...eventually 5/8/15

Postby cursormortis » Sat May 16, 2015 8:15 am

If Alex bulked up, he and Abuela could be Yzma and Kronk.

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